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Episode 113



BBFB: Batman: Aftershock


0:00:00 Intro
0:01:42 Comic News
0:23:35 Nightwing #18
0:47:37 Batman Beyond Chapter #19
0:56:43 Batman: The Dark Knight #18
1:08:08 Batman Incorporated #9
1:31:13 BBFB
1:41:32 Listener Q&A's
1:53:05 Closing
1:58:16 Outtakes



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  • Alex

    Excellent episode as always! I really appreciate you guys taking the time to answer our questions.  I read that Scott Snyder said that Zero Year wasn't going to conflict with Year One at all and it was not going to be a re-telling of Batman's first year, but from the interviews you read, that doesn't seem to be the case. If it is however, I'm dissapointed, not because I like Year One so much, but I don't understand why he didn't tell the truth. I also don't like how he's backtracking re-telling the origin, when there's still the events of Death of the Family and Damian's origin to deal with, being that he's writing the flag ship title. Batman is the one series that should continously be pushing forward. I don't know if I want to support this storyline for that reason. And I know that sounds ridicuoulous, but  I think it's ridiculous to swear on your child's life in regards to writing a comic book. Whether he's being sincere or not, I'm not a fan of that.

    Lately I've been more frustrated then usual with how the Batman Universe is being handled. It seems like they want us to read it like every past event happened, up to when they decide to change it on a whim. It doesn't make sense why we're supposed to assume certain villains, like the Joker, kept their same history (or at least when they decide to change it), and then recreate others and make them first encounters for Batman. If they're going to continue with the former they shouldn't change the past unless it conflicts with the new continuity, because it's not fair for old or new readers trying to get caught up in current events. Batgirl is a good example of that with the way Barbara's recovery is being handled. It's already confusing enough when they're retconning parts that they just retconned. I would love to see a Batman Superman team up, but it's ridiculous that they're making a series of their first meeting, when we already just read it in Justice League. The forced continuity between series, is another thing that makes it even less cohesive. As silly as Superboy Prime punching  time to bring Jason back was, at least it was an explanation and provided for a good story. All these new changes just seem to be just making a mess of things.
    What are your opinions of the various retconning? What elements would you want from Pre-New 52 and which elements do you wish they would just abandon? How would you implement the changes?


  • Jay

    I do think this Zero Year is needed, however don't want to read 11 issues of it. James Gordon Jr is one of the main reasons why Year One doesn't make sense in this New 52 universe timeline they esstablished. The fact that they even made a time line and talked about it was their first mistake. But because they made mention of it now I assume they feel they have to address how or why things don't line up. They already said the first 50 years of Batman's published history didn't happen anyway with Crisis in the 80s',  they should just admit that thats what they have to do here. Is it really a big deal if Jim jr is say a 10 year old instead of infant? Would you really be botherd if he changed minor details of Year One?


    As or my opinion on the books I've read so far this month:

    Batman 19 – 4/5: Here is an example of a great set up, I'm looking forward to see if Snyder can rap it up in the next issue. I have no idea what's happening in the back up, but I'm exited to see where its gonna go too. Can anyone tell me what the hell the shape of the last panel on the first page is supposed to be?


    Batman and Red Robin 19 – 5/5: This issue is the best example of a guest star popping into a book for no reason. Lots of subtle observations that Bruce is losing his mind, I love how Alfred is tipped off because Batman forgot the snow variant of his suit. Frankenstein's appearance is totally justified and I just loved how this story progressivly got more weird and creepy as I turned the page. Batman's grief and denial has totally driven him over the edge, I didn't expect this at all and can't wait to see what happens next. I'm guessing Carey Kelly is going to be the one to help Bruce accept Damian's death as it seems she was the only other person Damian had any kind of relationship with out side of the batman family.