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Episode 148

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Dustin, Ed and Stella are back with the last two weeks of news and reviews. After discussing DC’s next event, Convergence, they review Batman #36, Batman Eternal #31-32 and Detective Comics. Stick around for our spotlight for this episode and be sure to leave your comments below.


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  • Don

    Listening to the news discussion on Convergence, and I think you guys may be misremembering the exact nature of what the previous DC Comics “reboots” we’re initially meant to do. It’s not always been designed to achieve the same effect, from the first Crisis to the new 52, so I’ll add my thoughts in.

    The initial Crisis on Infinite Earths was done primarily to streamline the comic book continuity. Although no one at the time really complained about it, editorial became nervous over the multiverse theories with Earth-2, -3, -X and so on. The result was that the origins of the characters were largely altered, yet still relatively the same, and the characters were still fairly recognizable for the most part. For instance Jason Todd was still the current Robin, just had a different origin. Some were more drastically changed than others, like Wonder Woman, but the end result made the comics slightly easier to get into and understand. At least that was the idea.

    Zero Hour, done 9 years later, was an attempt to further streamline the continuity and fix some problems the Crisis created. It completely left certain aspects of the characters’ histories blank, such as wiping out the Kathy Kane Batwoman and Joe Chill. It went further to deliver an easy to read history for the characters.

    Infinite Crisis was more of a meta commentary the tonal effects the previous decade had had on the characters. Superboy Prime is going on about how everything is wrong and the characters are all different, like an old DC fan would. There was very little changed in terms of continuity, aside from bringing the concept of Joe Chill back in and reintroducing the multiverse with the Golden Age Superman. Otherwise, nothing much was different from Post-Crisis. It sort of merged with Pre-Crisis if anything.

    The new 52 is, in my mind, the most marketed, publicized DC reboot done for the sole purpose of bringing in new readers. Like Ed said, it’s the most dramatic in that its intent does not factor in the readers of the current story lines at the time, since they all ended abruptly. Although the first Crisis ended some story lines like Wonder Woman and the Flash, much of the company kept trucking. It shows that the idea of a reboot doesn’t always have the same intention of desired effect. If DC wanted to routinely reboot, they would further dilute the continuity each starting point would bring, thus erasing investment in the long form storytelling. Disagreeing with Ed, no hardcore fan would stick around as there would be nothing for them to stick to considering each reboot succeeding the previous one would cater to the next incoming audience.