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Episode 226

Solicitations for September have released and how much money will your pocket need come this fall? Find out all about that as well as more of our disdain of Azrael as we cover Detective Comics #959, Batman #25 and All-Star Batman #11. Tons of listener comments take us all over the place in the back half of the episode, so be sure to leave your comments below for next time!


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  • Jessica Nilo Alves

    Hey guys! About the previous episode, I have to say that I do hope Catwoman says yes and that we get to see the outcome. I’m trying to ignore my very strong, very present little devil whispering that it will go nowhere or that it will end badly. I have a very personal and particular point of view with those two in that I see a lot of my parents in Selina in Bruce. I know first hand the trouble that comes with putting two stubborn, strong willed and strong minded people together, with clashing personalities but who still love each other deeply. The possibility that they might be portrayed as a happy-ever-after couple is what makes me a little bit scared about it.
    Besides, I know from experience that the one person who knows how to manipulate Bruce is Selina. This could shape some quite interesting plot points.
    As for the timelines, Tom King said in an interview that one of the reasons for The War of Jokes and Riddles being in the past is to avoid the sense of impossibility of Batman being everywhere at once, especially with Metal happening during the summer.
    I was going to send some recommendations directly to Corbin – congratulations, Corbin! – but as I see it, this could be helpful to many people who have little girls at home. I’ll start with Nimona, by Noelle Stevenson, who is also behind Lumberjanes. Nimona is a Robin-like figure that offers herself as sidekick for sir Ballister Blackheart, the greatest villain in the realm. She just winds up being a tid bit more evil than he is. It deals with a lot of gray areas when it comes to morals and it makes for delightful, easy reading.
    Another recommendation is Good Night Stories for Rebel Girls. It is not a comic book, but it is illustrated. The book is a collection of 100 short biographies about remarkable women such as Jane Austen, Elizabeth I, Frida Kahlo and the such. Just to sprinkle your regular bedtime stories with inspirational women.
    Don’t forget to add some classics to the collection as well, Corbin. Pride and Prejudice (I read it when I was 12 and still hold it dearly), Harry Potter. If she ever gets into horror, Frankenstein and Interview with the Vampire. If you are willing to go international, try Clarice Lispector’s Hour of the Star. Make sure she knows those are all women writing, it helps a lot.

  • Ian Miller

    First, I apologize to Ed, since I’m pretty harsh on Snyder for this entire comment. All Star Batman continues to be my least favorite of the current Bat-books, because of my anger at Snyder’s dangerously thoughtless approach to bioethics with the cloning device subplot, and because of the way Alfred keeps thinking of Bruce as his son, which is contrary to Alfred’s sense of class and propriety.

    Over in the War of Jokes and Riddles, I was interested to see Cluemaster, since he’s directly connected to Steph, so I’m intrigued that he’s apparently setting himself against Riddler (possibly because of their competition in gimmicks). I also hope we get a reference to everyone’s favorite blonde Spoiler. 🙂 Tom King’s use of “trailer” pages at the end of the issues seems like a waste of space – stop trying to hype me for the story – just tell me the story! Completely agree with Dustin that it’s a really silly story device to try to convince us that Batman did something really terrible. It was one of the biggest problems with Batman and Robin Eternal (which I liked better than you all on the podcast, but it was deeply flawed) – exactly zero people believed that Batman killed those parents in front of their son.

    As for creating your own “world” of secondary characters – I think it can be weak, especially the way Snyder does it, where he creates a character, but then hands it off to another person to develop, and then gets mad when it doesn’t work out. Much better is what Greg Rucka and Chuck Dixon and other masters of comics do – they work little characters in, like Gunbunny or Crispus Allen, and slowly evolve those characters to become part of the world of DC. It also allows the creators to give texture to the world – instead of just random plot device character walking on and giving the main characters what they need, each character gets their own, tiny, long running arc as they show up more and more often.

    I disagree that Tom King’s endings are less satisfying than Snyder’s – in addition to Snyder’s tendency to let his plots “grow” and become shapeless, the resolutions of Night of the Owls, Death of the Family, Zero Year, Endgame, and Superheavy are some combination of cliched, underwhelming, nonsensical, and frustrating (Endgame, I’m looking at you.)

    Just want you to know I actually cut my comments down before posting. 🙂